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John Chapman WINDEATT = (1) Emma JOHNS     =(2) Jane DEAN
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Arthur P.C.    William J.   Sophia     Louisa D.   Walter C.   George R.    John C.    Maud L. 

 

John Chapman WINDEATT (1841-88)

Born 1st September in 1841 at St. Mary Arches, St. David's, Exeter, his father, Richard Hutchings Windeatt, was then a silversmith. By 1861 his father was running his own jewellery business and John Chapman, Richard's eldest son, was employed by him.   John Chapman is also described as a jeweller in militia records dated March 1868.  According to this record he was discharged from the militia on the thirty first of that month.  He and his wife then moved from town to town (Christchurch, Bristol, Monmouthshire, Bridgend, Lancashire) ending up fourteen years later in Liverpool working as a dock labourer.  

What happened to him?

Death

In the March quarter of 1888 in the Southampton Register district aged 45.

Parents & Siblings

Richard Hutchings WINDEATT (1817-1894) and  Maria nee CHAPMAN (?1821-1871) [ More . . . ]

1841 Birth in the District of St David in the County of the City of Exeter

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When & Where Name Sex Name and Surname of Father Name, surname and maiden surname of mother Occupation of father Signature, description and residence of informant When registered
1st September 1841
Mary Arches 
John Chapman Boy Richard WINDEATT Maria  WINDEATT formerly CHAPMAN Silversmith Mark of
X
Honor CHAPMAN
Grandmother
Stepcote Hill
6th September 1841

FULL SIBLINGS: Edwin Arthur WINDEATT (1842-1843), Susan Maria WINDEATT later BERRY (?1849-?) [ More . . . ]
HALF-SISTER: ? Leah WINDEATT formerly EDWARDS [ More . . . ]

Spouse 1 - Emma Johns

John Chapman was married twice:

  1. To Emma JOHNS in 1863 at Exeter. She does not appear again anywhere and there do not appear to have been any children from the marriage. 

Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church of Saint Sidwell in the County of the City of Exeter

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Date Name & Surname Age Condition Rank or Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Father's Name and Forename Rank or profession of Father Witnesses
Whitsun Tuesday

26/05/1863

John Chapman WINDEATT 22 Bachelor Jeweller Longbrook St Richard WINDEATT Jeweller Rd WINDEATT

Elizabeth MITCHELL

Emma JOHNS 19 Spinster - Longbrook St Samuel JOHNS Miller

All signed.

We don't have a definite death certificate for Emma but the following certificate maybe the correct one.  It looks as though Emma died of smallpox while her husband was away in the militia and possibly Ann SHAPCOTT barely knew her and didn't know her husband's correct christian name.

1864 Death Certificate - St David in the County of the City of Exeter

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When & Where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of Death Signature, description and residence of informant When registered
17th December 1864, Goldsmith St., Exeter Emma WINDEATT Female 21 years Wife of William WINDEATT a Silversmith Small Pox
Certified Vaccinated
Ann SHAPCOTT
present at the death
Cricklepit Street
Exeter
21st December  January 1864

Spouse 2

John Chapman married Jane DEAN in 1869 in Christchurch district, Hampshire. He must have met her when he was transferred from the Devon to the Hampshire militia and he was discharged from the regiment in March and married her shortly after.

Marriage solemnized at the Register Office in the District of Christchurch in the County of Southampton

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Date Name & Surname Age Condition Rank or Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Father's Name and Forename Rank or profession of Father Witnesses
10/06/1869 John Chapman WINDEATT 27 Widower
Bachelor
Jeweller Orchard St, Bournemouth Richard WINDEATT Jeweller Edward PAIN

Anne DEAN

Jane DEAN 21 Spinster - Pokesdown
Christchurch
William DEAN Farm Carter

All signed and the certificate was signed by the Registrar and the Superintendent Registrar

Jane died in the Workhouse and, from information received, she had suffered mentally for some years.  This must have made life difficult for the children.

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When & Where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of Death Signature, description and residence of informant When registered
3rd January 1900, Union Workhouse Christchurch Jane WINDEATT Female 53 years Widow of John WINDEATT a Jeweller of Pokesdown Softening of the brain (?3?) years
Influenza 4 days
Certified by H.W. Hartford?L.R.G. C.P.D.?
Alfred CROCKETT Master
Union Workhouse, Christchurch
4th January 1900

Children

They moved around a lot and had a lot of children.  A strange phenomenon is that John Chapman WINDEATT senior waited until 1883 before naming a son after himself. Most first sons were called after the father. John Chapman WINDEATT junior was the fifth son.  This would tend to suggest that another John was born first and later died - perhaps a son of Emma JOHNS'? I have noticed that in this branch of the family the first born child is given a single first name but, if that child died, and was  'replaced' then the second child was also given a second name in addition to the repeated first name - perhaps to distinguish them from the original child?

1. Arthur Pugsley Chapman WINDEATT (1870-1914)

Born in Christchurch in the September quarter of 1870
Married in the March quarter of 1903 to Elizabeth Susan COWARD and probably died in Blandford, Dorset, June qtr.1914 aged 42.  Not sure if they had any children - although the 'marriage by licence' sometimes implies that the bride was pregnant and in need of a swift marriage.  However, it is also possible that Elizabeth Susan was older than the age she claimed on the certificate.  One would assume the couple met through her father who probably worked with Arthur.  It was not at all unusual in this family for men to marry older women (and for older women to claim they were even younger than they actually were!).

Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of East Lulworth in the County of Dorset by Licence.

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Date Name & Surname Age Condition Rank or Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Father's Name and Forename Rank or profession of Father Witnesses
9/02/1903 Arthur-Pugsley Chapman WINDEATT 33 Bachelor Bricklayer Pokesdown in the County of Southampton John WINDEATT Jeweller James Joseph FOOKS

Kate Ellen WOOD

Elizabeth Susan COWARD 39 Spinster - East Lulworth William COWARD Bricklayer

All signed the certificate.

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2. William John WINDEATT (1873-1835)

Born in Bristol in 1873. His father John Chapman WINDEATT and his family must have moved there from Christchurch.

William John WINDEATT became an engine driver and married in Surrey in 1898. He married Emma Maria PATMORE, who was born in 1870 in Harpenden (and which coincidentally was the town where I grew up in the nineteen forties and fifties).  

He and his wife are buried in Molesey, Surrey according to the details given on the Gravestone Photos site.  William John WINDEATT was buried in 1935, aged 62 and his wife, Emma Maria WINDEATT (née PATMORE) was buried in 1958, aged 84.  A photo of their gravestone may be requested from the same site at the page for Grave 24667 but you can also find a copy on my gallery pages.

Puzzle: William John's father's name is given as "Chapman Windeatt" on his copy birth certificate and as "William John Windeatt, watchmaker" on his copy marriage certificate.  Why the confusion?  Is it just an unhappy co-incidence of mistranscription on the part of the registrars or did William John not really know his father's full christian names?  If the latter, was it because he was apprenticed very young and his parents moved away and lost touch or was it because, perhaps, his father was familiarly called by a name that was not the registered one - Bill for example.  (Such things happen - my own father's name was Innes Roslyn MILES but everyone called him Gerry.)

3. Sophia WINDEATT (1875-?)

Born in Newport, Monmouthshire. She later married in 1892 in Christchurch and, I believe, had children.

4. Louisa Dean WINDEATT  (1876-80)

as born in Bridgend and died four years later in Liverpool where  John Chapman, his father, was working as a labourer. He seemed to have moved up the west coast from Bristol. picking up casual work as he went. 

5. Walter Cecil WINDEATT  (1878)

born in Welsh Hill, Pennington, Lancashire and died either in the same year in Leigh or the year after in Liverpool.

6.  George Richard WINDEATT (1881-8) 

born in Liverpool but life in the north west couldn't have been very happy - two children died in infancy in as many years.  The family must have moved back down to Christchurch a few years later because George Richard died there in 1888, age 6

1881 Birth in the Sub-district of Islington in the County of Lancaster

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When & Where Name Sex Name and Surname of Father Name, surname and maiden surname of mother Occupation of father Signature, description and residence of informant When registered
9th December 1881 49 Byrom Terrace USD George Richard Boy John WINDEATT Mary Jane WINDEATT formerly DEAN Labourer M. J.  WINDEATT
Mother
49 Byrom Terrace
16th January 1882

7. John Chapman WINDEATT  (junior) (1880-?)

Born at the same address in Liverpool as George Richard. His father, John Chapman senior, is recorded as a dock labourer.
Married in the December quarter of 1907 (GRO: Christchurch 2b 1521) to Laura Mary WHITMARSH.

1883 Birth in the Sub-district of Islington in the County of Lancaster

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When & Where Name Sex Name and Surname of Father Name, surname and maiden surname of mother Occupation of father Signature, description and residence of informant When registered
27th October  1883
49 Byrom Terrace USD
John Chapman Boy John Chapman  WINDEATT Mary Jane WINDEATT formerly DEAN Dock Labourer M. J.  WINDEATT
Mother
49 Byrom Terrace
3rd December 1883

 

8. Maud Louisa WINDEATT (1885)

born and married in Christchurch is probably another daughter.

Census Transcriptions

1881

Living at 49 Byrom Terrace, Liverpool, Lancashire.

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
 John WINDEATT   Head   M   Male   40   Exeter, Devon, England   Cotton Porter 
 Jane WINDEATT   Wife   M   Female   30   Bournemouth, Hampshire, England    
 Arthur WINDEATT   Son   U   Male   12   Bournemouth, Hampshire, England   Scholar 
 William J. WINDEATT   Son      Male   9   Bristol, Somerset, England   Scholar 
 Sophia WINDEATT   Daur      Female   7   Risca, Monmouth, England   Scholar 

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